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TeMerc
 Post subject: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted 'Extras' [Apr 28]
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:10 am 
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Rather than come up with a catchy phrase as I was going to do, I decided on this one, more to the point, don't you think?

This thread is going to document vendors who fail the users that serve them by getting greedy and adding toolbars from third party vendors solely to increase their bottom line. It is more or less, depending on contribution here a mirror of our sister site Calendar of Updates thread.

You can find images of the installs in that thread. Users here feel free to post any new finds here and if you're not a member at COU, I'll transfer the images to their Installers Hall Of Shame thread

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  • Shockwave Image Norton Security Scan
  • Flash Image Google toolbar
  • CCleaner ImageYaHoo! toolbar but offers version without one
  • Daemon Tools Lite
  • Nero Burning Rom Image Ask.com toolbar
  • PC Tools Firewall Plus ImageGoogle toolbar
  • Zone Alarm Free Image 'SpyBlocker' Toolbar
  • AVG Anti-Virus V8 ImageYaHoo! toolbar w\LinkScanner tech Discussion here @ TIC

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted Toolbars
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:08 pm 
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Grabbed these from Corrine which I had forgotten about
  • Sun JavaImage Google Toolbar
  • Spyware TerminatorImage Crawler Toolbar (may also change start page)
  • Webroot SpysweeperImage Ask Toolbar

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted Toolbars
PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:45 pm 
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Some more greedy vendors here, info grabbed from the COU thread:
  • Apple using iTunes update to auto-install Safari <<<this one causing huge ripples all over
  • Shockwave for Firefox browser will offer Google Toolbar and it pre-checked
  • DivX installer/updater will offer Yahoo! Toolbar and it is pre-selected
  • Bit comet offers the Google tool bar which is checked by default
  • Spyware Doctor Google toolbar now and this is the default
  • Winamp 5 Full 5.53 toolbar + MP3 downloads, default selection
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    Crawler Tool bar 5.1 comes pre checked with the software along with web guard. Now the big problem with this software is that the the range of tool bars are only offered once Spy ware Terminator is installed. It goes straight in to the install mode once you click on the license. It doesn't even give you the Chance to see where the files will be installed so be very careful with this software
    See here

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted Toolbars
PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:26 pm 
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IrfanView -Google toolbar & desktop search
LogiTech Setpoint - YaHoo! toolbar
ICQ - brand toolbar, reset homepage, default ICQ search page

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted Toolbars
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:46 pm 
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WinZip aren't bundling toolbars .... but ARE bundling rogue applications!!

http://www.dozleng.com/updates/index.ph ... &start=100

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted Toolbars
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:24 am 
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Well, I was a beta tester for Winzip and still have the pro 10 version, looks like I won't be getting others now... 1BS

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted Toolbars
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Sorry to disagree here. IMHO, there is a big difference between a vendor who does NOT inform the user, this forcing unwanted extras - from that of a vendor who clearly displays, informs, and requests permission to have the extras installed.

If users are TOO quick to click away ((O , then the blame is clearly with them. I'm using several of the mentioned products (WITHOUT the EXTRAS) and the programs work fine, Mindblower! [-]

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted Toolbars
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:37 pm 
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On this note just this morning I installed a new version of YaHoo! IM.

Much to my chagrin, the toolbar and 'browser services' were default ticked, naturally I unticked each. hedbngr

Imagine my surprise a short while later when Scotty barked about a toolbar and then services being installed!! grgr

They were both force installed!! =+\

Then they also had the upgrade automatically auto installed\preset, but they do give you a note saying you can change the option in preferences which I did.


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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted Toolbars
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OK, I had updated Veoh last week and thought I added the info here, but I must have forgotten, it was just before I borked the system, so guess I got distracted. :oops:

Anywho, I just installed it and it too has the YaHoo! toolbar which includes 'YaHoo! Search Protection' and a switch to YaHoo! homepage. ((O

But I didn't get any surprises like I got with YIM. So sad as it is to say, we need to give them props for that(?). !!x(


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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted Toolbars
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New one to add, COMODO Firewall Pro now installs ASK toolbar by default.

See over at COU

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Two more to ad:

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted Toolbars
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Add Trillian to the mix, it has not one but two pre-ticked extras! grgr

Ask toolbar and Weather Channel Desktop

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted 'Extras' [6-17]
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Cyberlink PowerDVD 8 (Ultra) it bundles and pre-selected a Google Toolbar and it will install "MoovieLive" which is BETA

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted 'Extras' [6-29]
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:04 am 
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Added in the list:

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted 'Extras' [7-4]
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We're now delisting RealPlayer Pat reported there's no more google toolbar and I also tried the installer today.

No more google toolbar other than their usual download Realplayer button which is pre-checked still but not a toolbar and it is needed if user want to download video from webpages.

Then the others is unchecked by default.
0-= Screenshots @ COU

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted 'Extras' [7-10]
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:53 pm 
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Added in the list: Free Download Manager that is bundle and prechecked of Software Informer.
Screenshot, discussion and report by MysteryFCM at http://forum.hosts-file.net/viewtopic.php?p=4582#p4582

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted 'Extras' [8-8]
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New one, called Web Security Guard.

Default install has a search engine change and there are a ton of 'services' but most all are not ticked to install.

Web Security Guard
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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted 'Extras' [8-8]
PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:39 pm 
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Some new ones just added:
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Auslogics Registry Defrag - Ask Toolbar
Defraggler - Yahoo Toolbar
Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 Update 10 - Live Search for Windows Toolbar (See screenshot - Thanks sho-dan)
Recuva - Yahoo toolbar
SIW (System Information for Windows) - Crawler Toolbar
Unlocker 1.8.7 - eBay Desktop shortcuts
0-= Calendar of Updates

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted 'Extras' [Nov 27]
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  • Comodo Internet Security, Antivirus & Firewall - Ask Toolbar
  • New McAfee Site Advisor update - (Yahoo! default browser search)
0-= COU

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted 'Extras' [Dec 5]
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Webroot finally removes head from ass, drops bullshit Ask toobar, read more at Security Garden

YHOO wrshp [-] 1rokon

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted 'Extras' [Mar. 1]
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hehe nice one :)

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted 'Extras' [Dec 5]
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TeMerc wrote:
Webroot finally removes head from ass, drops bullshit Ask toobar, read more at Security Garden

YHOO wrshp [-] 1rokon
That didn't last long. grgr Greedy mother =+\ ers

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted 'Extras' [Mar. 1]
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You read my mind ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted 'Extras' [Mar. 1]
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BitDefender Joins the Dark Side

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The link from the Twitter quote leads to a thread at Wilders Security where member EsoxLucius confirms with a screen capture the inclusion of Ask in the BitDefender product:
    - This is not a masked ask toolbar, it is a BitDefender toolbar with and added search box (in this case ask)

    - No search, browsing habits, browsing history is captured and sent anywhere.

    - The ask.com search box is mentioned in the first step of the installation.

    - The choice regarding what toolbar to use is not mine to make and I can't really say why IAC.
As a result of the inclusion of the Ask search engine in the BitDefender Anti-Phising product, Calendar of Updates (CoU) has discontinued providing update information on BitDefender. (See the CoU list of products with the Ask Toolbar.)

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 Post subject: Re: Greedy Vendors Who Install Unwanted 'Extras' [Apr 28]
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Effective immediately, I no longer link to BitDefender software on my affiliate pages

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Cool :)

http://hphosts.blogspot.com/2009/04/bit ... s-not.html ;)

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